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Ours not have place in the lists again

http://www.zdnet.com/article/which-prog ... even-mean/

Despite everything Viva HMG

I am not worried about the absence of our language because it lives in our heart.

However, I am happy that Google's Angular JS is not finding a place in this list. OMG! I had tried to study that language and I had nearly forgotten everything I know!

Even in the times where Clipper was the king. Xbase( as a language ) has never figure in any ranking.
US Magazines never got money (big numbers) from it.
Then MS bought Fox and his mates from CA bought Nantuket and they buried the sequel.
Also Borland did the same with Dbase but on a totally different context (mostly internal dissavenences ).
I was told once by a guy from Natucket ( in a conference they gave in Montevideo ) that Bill from MS was present in a Clipper 5.0 demostration in California and was amazed about the power of codeblocks. He asked: where on earth this technology came from ?
It was until .NET that something similar was in MS collection of languages.

C U !

apais wrote:Even in the times where Clipper was the king. Xbase( as a language ) has never figure in any ranking.

Agree. It looks like the writers of these so called statistics do not know the difference of apple from orange. They just think that whatever MS makes or around Web building is all that is to programming. The xbase fields remains totally unknown to them. Nevertheless xbase has flourished from 16 bit dBaseII to 32 bit HMG now. With little variant, the syntax has remain the same and also the DBF files. This is something we are proud of. We have solved and still solving many a problems of day to day activity of the world, remaining in the background and letting the younger guys take all the limelight.

Hey ! we are like that.

Regards,

Anand

Well, the article says it all:

The article shows a number of possible factors for measuring popularity, including:

The number of times the language name is mentioned in web searches, such as indicated by Google Trends
The number of job advertisements that mention the language
The number of books sold that teach or describe the language
Estimates of the number of existing lines of code written in the language, which may underestimate languages not often found in public searches
The number of projects in that language on SourceForge, Freecode, and GitHub
The number of postings in forums and newsgroups about the language
The number of courses sold by programming bootcamps
The number of students enrolled in programming classes around the world
The number of videos on each language on YouTube
The number of postings on Reddit or Stack Exchange about a language

Serge

esgici wrote:Ours not have place in the lists again

http://www.zdnet.com/article/which-prog ... even-mean/

Despite everything Viva HMG

This is a 'sad' topic that I've visited many times.

These are the facts:

1. FoxPro was (at its time) an extremely popular, multi-platform (DOS,Windows,Unix, Mac) development tool

2. MS aquired Fox Software, for:

- a) kill a direct competitor of VB and Access.
- b) Use Fox technology on VB and Access.
- c) 'Fix' the multi-platform feature of FoxPro, menacing Windows dominance (not achieved yet, on early 90's). No more multi-platform.

3. Borland aquired Ashton Tate (dBase) to have its own xBase product. It failed because:

- a) The problems of dBase IV ruined the brand.
- b) Borland dBase V arrived late to the market (already won by VB/Access)

4. CA aquired Nantucket for:

- a) Kill Clipper (a WIndows version was never developed)
- b) Try to replace Clipper with Visual Objects

5. Finally:

Borland: Failed
CA: Failed
MS: Won

A sad combination of successful and wrong corporate decissions.

By the end of 90's xBase was not a mainstream language anymore. The most usual word, arising when you try to talk with a non-xBase programmer about xBase, is 'obsolete'.

Sad but true.

PS: IMHO, Harbour Team is responsible too, because they had never as a goal, to add a simple/multi-platform GUI to the project core, using the same syntax as the console one. Otherwise, the history could be different.

Hi Friends:

I ask myself and ask everyone:
Is really important that our loved HMG is one of the most pupular programming language ??
A programming language is more efficient if its popular ??
Been "popular" means "The best of the best" ??
In my opinion all these questions have only one answer: NO.-

Hmg don't need to be a popular programming language, only need to be what it is: a powerfull programming tool.-
HMG growes up with all the effort of any member on our fellowship, from the most insignificant comment to the unvualuable job of our masters.- Individually all of us have put the best we can't to make HMG what it is.-

We are not the biggest programming comunity, but certainly our comunity is the - unless for me -; no mather where we live, everyone is near to each partner, and helping each other we also grow up.-

I'm proud of been a member of this comunity and also proud from what HMG let me know, not only an excellent programming language, also a big number of friends.-

No one can feel sad, all of us must feel proud.-
With regards.
Eduardo

Nice words Eduardo and true !

Serge

+1

Regards,

Anand

Only reality on popularity is : it is NOTHING !

No quality, no performance, no value ...

It is only a toy in hands of big-boys

HELL !

and,

Viva HMG