A mandatory statement

[esgici]

Hi all

I haven't any concern neither who speaks what language nor who promote what work.

When I don't understand anything or when I don't like any participation I don't interest it; that is all.

My first concern as earlier noticed, is the future of HMG. While concentrate on a specific language ( or language family ) HMG will move away being international and this will be a big pity.

My second concern is anyone play a role of another one, send - respond posts under name of another person. This is a shame, for both player and who allowed.

I didn't not accuse anyone, just ask. Nobody said "no, you are wrong, nobody post / responded under name of another one".

Instead whole the tribes bearing down on me !

Some said (under SADNESS tittle ) "I ask my question in any language I like, who will answer SHOULD translate !" and others enthusiastically endorsed.

Look at that comedy : after locked a topic a post published and then topic re-locked !

Is here a technical communication, discussion forum or a dictatorship center ?

My last words said 1400 years ago:

... captive (beggar) good attending captain ill ( or drunk )

Is there more sense to stay in a place like here ?

[danielmaximiliano]

Hello Esgici:
without seeking to engage in a topic that never tends to end I answer ..
I'm sad to see that the forum rather than a place of knowledge disclosure discord find ..
and I got to be part of a meeting at which a user was unhappy that my help .. I made without thinking about an economic retribution and pretend to be the teacher, I did just for a third person who asked about the same subject and put hours of my time in ayudarlo..lo same units in some subjects.

I have seen units in places responded

"I did not know," bing "translator is more clever than Google"

you know the translators know how to handle it .. I use a translator when I do not play the English well. the same as you and I am not a disabled person for it ..

not have a different language or have a different culture be less or higher than anyone remember that for these reasons and others are generated wars and therefore customs that only leads to the destruction of a site.

If you feel tired to participate in the forum they will give me grief because I learn a lot from you because their skills are superior to mine as other friends of HMG of I learn programming techniques and styles of coding, so it do you know that I publish technical information and repair electronic elsewhere without asking anything in return ..

if more sent him a friendly hug and takes hold that many people continue to participate in this wonderful forum appreciate it very much.

[EduardoLuis]

"if more sent him a friendly hug and takes hold that many people continue to participate in this wonderful forum appreciate it very much." (sic D. Maximiliano)

+10

[mol]

Hi all

I haven't any concern neither who speaks what language nor who promote what work.

When I don't understand anything or when I don't like any participation I don't interest it; that is all.

My first concern as earlier noticed, is the future of HMG. While concentrate on a specific language ( or language family ) HMG will move away being international and this will be a big pity.

I must agree with Esgici.
When I need to translate from Spanish to google Polis and fro google Polish to natural Polish, posts become incomprehensible. I'm turning away in this case.
Every programmer knows a little English, I think. And this is enough to communicate with others with simplest words!

[EduardoLuis]

Hi Esgici:

As Daniel said, many of us have learn to much from you, so if you decide to move away from our forum, all of us will be sad.-
As also Daniel mean, translators not always show the right idea the writer want to transmit.-
I don't use traslator, and i know my english writen is far from what it must be.- But i search the way to comunicate with all in the forum.-
With your respect, dictatorship center in an unfortunate expression.- Long time ago (but not too much) in my country we undergo a dictatorship goverment, and... you can imagine what that means that for us.-
You are a wise person, so IMO, you must "filter" nonsense expresions.-
At my 59 yo, i learn that no one knows everything.- We learn from you, and in some way you also learn something from us; so everybody learns from everybody.-
I hope you will check your choose and continue been one of the member of this fellowship.-
With regards.
Eduardo

[pctoledo]

what benefit may be such video?

I want to make just a small observation, the largest community of users HMG speaks Portuguese, just look at the statistics of HMG3 download:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/hmg/fil ... 2014-11-18

So for sure this video will be very useful and will bring much benefit.

[esgici]

To all interested:

Throw away that "language", "culture" words.

If I were a racist why would between you for such long time ?

If you're honest enough why you blame always me, why you don't talk about clear realities. Why nobody (including player and who allowed) couldn't say "nobody plays role of another person".

Each administrator can assign someone else in his place; but to play the role of one is to deceive people. Nobody don't be disturbed by being deceived?

dictatorship center in an unfortunate expression

Not a matter being dictator and to be ruled by a dictator; but talking dictatorship of anyone is wrong; you want say this ?

So for sure this video will be very useful and will bring much benefit.

To many people downloaded but all or most of them don't know or can not success installing; you want say this ?

No one can be hopeful, I'm not going anywhere.

No fights I've ever escape.

[Rathinagiri]

Hi Daniel and Esgici,

Personally, I am in favor of using a single language in the whole forum ie., English. Online Translator is not THE best option available. Every time I try to use this online translators, I don't get to the point what the content is for. So, it is better and advisable if the posts are in English, which is the only language known to me other than my mother tongue, Tamil.

Having said this, it is also my personal opinion that, persons who are posting in other languages are the people who don't get the support from all. Over a period of time, those who don't know the language just ignore those posts. In a way, there becomes a cluster of vacuum in the forum then and there because of these posts.

While appreciating the good concerns of Daniel and Esgici, I also worry about the recent threads. I know about Esgici and his affection on International HMG from the very beginning and also know about Daniel and his love on magic of HMG. These are just two representing persons among thousands from all over the world, having varied culture, religion, language, nationality etc., The only thing common amongst us is HMG.

I want to clarify that we can't/won't command anybody to post on a particular language. That will also be dictatorship. At the same time, if we allow everybody to post in any language, then it would also be useless. So, we should maintain a proper balance in this regard for the best of this forum.

So, it is my suggestion to make sub-forums in every forum. The main forum would contain only English posts. If you want to post in Spanish, it should be posted in Spanish sub-forum. We shall create as many sub-forums as required for each language. It is an idea only, if you have a better solution to solve this language problem once for all, please suggest yours.

Till such time, I request both Esgici, and Daniel to be with us as you have been all the time.

Thanks and regards,

S. Rathinagiri

[Clip2Mania]

I live in a bilingual country, and work in the capital of it, so some "language courtesy" is expected everyday. On top of this, I work in an international environment with people from all over the world, so most of the spoken/written language in reports is English - which is the de-facto business / programming language.
I support Mr. Rathinagiri that the "main forum-language" should be English, but - indeed - why not have a subsection in Spanish, Portuguese or other? I sometimes read these forums also (by means of a translator - which has it's downsides), but a piece of code often explains a lot, so I can make it work in general. Let's not make the world more complicated than it is. It should be about HMG, nothing else.

[serge_girard]

I agree with Eric: It should be about HMG, nothing else.

Using Google Translate is sometimes hilarious and gives riddles, puzzles, mistakes,....
Subsections in Spanish (+...) is a good idea.

Serge